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		<title>By: Form Design Blunders and Faux Pas on the Web - Monday By Noon</title>
		<link>http://mondaybynoon.com/2007/10/01/selects-javascript-and-usability-please-help/#comment-2111</link>
		<dc:creator>Form Design Blunders and Faux Pas on the Web - Monday By Noon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 12:26:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Something I continue to run into time after time is the classic case of recursive selects. I will despise this implementation until the end of time. I can understand that it may be a way to de-clutter the UI a bit, but at a [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Something I continue to run into time after time is the classic case of recursive selects. I will despise this implementation until the end of time. I can understand that it may be a way to de-clutter the UI a bit, but at a [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Christopher</title>
		<link>http://mondaybynoon.com/2007/10/01/selects-javascript-and-usability-please-help/#comment-1533</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Christopher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 12:36:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Aaron Gustafson: Thanks for the link! I&#039;ll be sure to take a look at the write-up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Aaron Gustafson: Thanks for the link! I&#8217;ll be sure to take a look at the write-up.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Gustafson</title>
		<link>http://mondaybynoon.com/2007/10/01/selects-javascript-and-usability-please-help/#comment-1531</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron Gustafson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 14:57:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sure I&#039;d cringe at the code if I looked at it now, but I built a degradable related &lt;code&gt;SELECT&lt;/code&gt;s from an &lt;code&gt;OPTGROUP&lt;/code&gt;-organized &lt;code&gt;SELECT&lt;/code&gt; a few years back and then &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.digital-web.com/articles/usability_frosting_accessibility_cake/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;wrote about it for Digital Web&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sure I&#8217;d cringe at the code if I looked at it now, but I built a degradable related <code>SELECT</code>s from an <code>OPTGROUP</code>-organized <code>SELECT</code> a few years back and then <a href="http://www.digital-web.com/articles/usability_frosting_accessibility_cake/" rel="nofollow">wrote about it for Digital Web</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Christopher</title>
		<link>http://mondaybynoon.com/2007/10/01/selects-javascript-and-usability-please-help/#comment-1532</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Christopher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 13:15:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks to everyone pointing out some resources I hadn&#039;t come across before! There are obviously people frustrated with this very issue and put some serious thought into a proper alternative. I apologize for the delay in my response, but I&#039;m really excited to see what opinions and resources have been posted!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks to everyone pointing out some resources I hadn&#8217;t come across before! There are obviously people frustrated with this very issue and put some serious thought into a proper alternative. I apologize for the delay in my response, but I&#8217;m really excited to see what opinions and resources have been posted!</p>
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		<title>By: Limitless</title>
		<link>http://mondaybynoon.com/2007/10/01/selects-javascript-and-usability-please-help/#comment-1530</link>
		<dc:creator>Limitless</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 18:07:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree too with Andy and Matthew!, I&#039;ve seen that before. Good work ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree too with Andy and Matthew!, I&#8217;ve seen that before. Good work ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Babbs</title>
		<link>http://mondaybynoon.com/2007/10/01/selects-javascript-and-usability-please-help/#comment-1529</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew Babbs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 18:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Andy, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.wait-till-i.com/index.php?p=411&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Chris Heilmann&#039;s method&lt;/a&gt; is the best choice available at the moment. Even with quite a large number of options, it&#039;s reasonably usable without JS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Andy, <a href="http://www.wait-till-i.com/index.php?p=411" rel="nofollow">Chris Heilmann&#8217;s method</a> is the best choice available at the moment. Even with quite a large number of options, it&#8217;s reasonably usable without JS.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://mondaybynoon.com/2007/10/01/selects-javascript-and-usability-please-help/#comment-1528</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 14:44:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My favorite way to do this is to use the method described here:
http://www.wait-till-i.com/index.php?p=411

It only works for 2 levels of options but there&#039;s also a nested list solution for unlimited levels.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My favorite way to do this is to use the method described here:<br />
<a href="http://www.wait-till-i.com/index.php?p=411" rel="nofollow">http://www.wait-till-i.com/index.php?p=411</a></p>
<p>It only works for 2 levels of options but there&#8217;s also a nested list solution for unlimited levels.</p>
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		<title>By: Medden</title>
		<link>http://mondaybynoon.com/2007/10/01/selects-javascript-and-usability-please-help/#comment-1527</link>
		<dc:creator>Medden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 14:42:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The download method used in your examples doesn&#039;t over bother me, although there is no excuse for it not working with javascript disabled.
To make it accessible without js. I&#039;d hide the second select box, and add a (GO) button to take you to a page of results for the product family you choose.

This kind of multi select box method is very useful for reducing large amounts of data a visitor gets to see, or limiting choices to predefined paths.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The download method used in your examples doesn&#8217;t over bother me, although there is no excuse for it not working with javascript disabled.<br />
To make it accessible without js. I&#8217;d hide the second select box, and add a (GO) button to take you to a page of results for the product family you choose.</p>
<p>This kind of multi select box method is very useful for reducing large amounts of data a visitor gets to see, or limiting choices to predefined paths.</p>
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		<title>By: trovster</title>
		<link>http://mondaybynoon.com/2007/10/01/selects-javascript-and-usability-please-help/#comment-1526</link>
		<dc:creator>trovster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 14:27:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, this is something I&#039;ve just done for a site, where they wanted such functionality. Here&#039;s an example of a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.trovster.com/double-select/index.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;double-select&lt;/a&gt; with the JavaScript I&#039;m using, hopefully it can be useful to someone!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, this is something I&#8217;ve just done for a site, where they wanted such functionality. Here&#8217;s an example of a <a href="http://www.trovster.com/double-select/index.html" rel="nofollow">double-select</a> with the JavaScript I&#8217;m using, hopefully it can be useful to someone!</p>
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